Science and Religion are incompatible PERIOD!
Let me make it perfectly clear for anyone out there that fundamentally there is no reconciling science with religion so quite trying.
Science is defined as the observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena. Science can only invoke physical explanation and the experimentation must be repeatable.
Religion is a set of beliefs drawn from some source usually a person or a book but it can also include cave paintings and other things. The important point is that in religion the belief comes first, regardless of the facts which is opposite to science.
Most rebuttals are about the "god in the gaps" type of belief. Science has no explanation for something so god did it. That god has been steadily losing influence since he'd is now confined to making pancakes with faces on it and such. I won't say anymore since this rebuttal is clearly nonsense.
The alternative is the rejection of science completely to embrace the holy document/painting/person completely, fundamentalism. Basically the gap mentioned above was too small so you cut out science and god has a role. So it seems clear that as science explains more and more people turn to fundamentalism since they want to keep their religion (as in the US) although I doubt this is the only reason (retardation or head trauma comes to mind).
What does this all mean? To myself it shows that discussion with religious people is not technically possible. For instance let talk politics. A scientifically minded person will say that no system is perfect since there is on way to satisfy all the needs of a large number of people so the discussion is pros and cons of different systems. A religious person believes they were told the absolute truth but their "source" and so a perfect system is possible if they just get everyone to follow their belief. For instance a Christian/Muslim/Jew all think that there is a god so following his rules will lead to a perfect system. As you can see we aren't even talking the same language. The assumptions that religious people have are not reconcile with science so their opinions are worthless unless you believe exactly what they believe.
Science is defined as the observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena. Science can only invoke physical explanation and the experimentation must be repeatable.
Religion is a set of beliefs drawn from some source usually a person or a book but it can also include cave paintings and other things. The important point is that in religion the belief comes first, regardless of the facts which is opposite to science.
Most rebuttals are about the "god in the gaps" type of belief. Science has no explanation for something so god did it. That god has been steadily losing influence since he'd is now confined to making pancakes with faces on it and such. I won't say anymore since this rebuttal is clearly nonsense.
The alternative is the rejection of science completely to embrace the holy document/painting/person completely, fundamentalism. Basically the gap mentioned above was too small so you cut out science and god has a role. So it seems clear that as science explains more and more people turn to fundamentalism since they want to keep their religion (as in the US) although I doubt this is the only reason (retardation or head trauma comes to mind).
What does this all mean? To myself it shows that discussion with religious people is not technically possible. For instance let talk politics. A scientifically minded person will say that no system is perfect since there is on way to satisfy all the needs of a large number of people so the discussion is pros and cons of different systems. A religious person believes they were told the absolute truth but their "source" and so a perfect system is possible if they just get everyone to follow their belief. For instance a Christian/Muslim/Jew all think that there is a god so following his rules will lead to a perfect system. As you can see we aren't even talking the same language. The assumptions that religious people have are not reconcile with science so their opinions are worthless unless you believe exactly what they believe.
Labels: Religionish
posted by Eddie | 5:53 PM
2 Comments:
Love your blog! Finally, a reasonable person on the internet.
Please become a citizen of the US and run for high office. The pay and benefits are excellent.
Really, you couldn't do worse than Bush/Cheney/Rove, and likely you'd do a lot more good!
Thanks! I happen to be a US citizen as well as Canadian, but my voting district is Brooklyn so my vote rarely countes. Besides I think a gay black woman has more chances than an athiest ;-)
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